Saturday, September 28, 2013

Question for the collective.

Question for the collective.. There have been OSR adaptations of nearly every version of D&D ever released (Labyrinth Lord for B/X, OSRIC for AD&D, etc.) but I have yet to see an OSR adaptation of Holmes. Have I just not run across it, or does one not exist? If not, any theories why? (beyond the obvious that Holmes only covered lvls 1-3, and thus saw considerably less long term play)

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  1. Michael is working on an extended series of rules for Blueholme to take it beyond the original levels: https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/107363141061262465815

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  2. Yep, the freeware extensions I'm familiar with (Meepo's, the Grey Book, and some odds and ends). Cool to see there are a couple of full blown takes on Holmes kicking around out there : )

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  3. Thanks Greg!@ I somehow missed M&P...

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  4. Editing M&P is what convinced me to create an errata sheet for Holmes Basic. When that errata "sheet" started becoming an errata document, it turned into BLUEHOLME™. :-)

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  5. Andy C I'm working on an reference sheet-based approach to cloning/expanding Holmes, which I've dubbed "Holmes Ref". Read more here:

    http://zenopusarchives.blogspot.com/2013/03/holmes-ref.html

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  6. The original Holmes basic set was published sometime in the later half of 1977. It was never really intended as its own standalone version or edition. It was intended as an introduction to D&D ... and the only version of D&D that actually existed in published form at that time was the original set + supplements.
    Either the original set and supplements or any modern variant that replicates those could be considered a "Holmes expansion" as well.

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  7. Bryan, that's true to a great extent, but there a number of small places where Holmes or TSR changed or interpreted the OD&D rules. One that has become widely known in the OSR is the Holmes scroll creation rules. OD&D limited these to wizards, but Holmes allows it for any level.

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  8. FYI (for everyone), I also have an overview page on my site where I discuss historic and modern Holmes expansions. It's linked above, but I'll paste it here in case you are seeing this only via email.

    rules expansions | zenopusarchives

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